david icke’s warning about flu vaccines

September 17, 2009

For those keeping count of anti-vaccination activists, add another name to your list: conspiracy theorist David Icke. Now, the former soccer player and sports commentator doesn’t oppose vaccines because he believes they’re responsible for autism or because he’s afraid of the unidentified toxins they’re rumored to contain. His reason to deter people from getting the new H1N1 vaccine is to foil the evil plot created by hybrid alien lizards controlling our planet to cull our numbers and perform large scale biomedical experiments as he explains in a recently made video. Yes folks, we’re going really deep into tin foil hat territory here since as you may have guessed already, David Icke is absolutely, undeniably barking mad, even by conspiracy theorist standards.

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We know that there really are conspiracies out there and groups of wealthy and powerful people do organize for the protection and advancement of their agendas. While most of their plots never really pan out or end up being little more than organized kickbacks to lawmakers to protect their profit margins, at least political plots that involve banks, defense contractors or politicians are somewhat plausible. An ancient bloodline of bizarre alien lizard people controlling the planet from the shadows? Not so much. Of all the schemes Icke could’ve cooked up, he choose the extraterrestrial route to hold together all the disparate conspiracies of which he’s a believer. And now, he’s opening a can of hysterical worms, littering his site with 30 pt. font headlines about how evil flu vaccines are the first step to a global police state.

Vehement Australian anti-vaxer Meryl Dorey who also seems to believe that vaccines are just a conspiracy to kill and poison kids for profit, posted an abbreviated version of Icke’s paranoid screeds on the blog of her official anti-vax group last month. Other conspiracy theorists have been abuzz with rumors of H1N1 being an attack carried out by the New World Order to reduce human headcount and raised panicked cries about a then non-existent vaccine. Of course all of their arguments require changes in biology, economics, politics and history to have any validity to them, but when did little things like facts stop die hard conspiracy theorists operating under absolute assurance that they were the lone visionaries among the masses of uneducated, ignorant sheeple? Being a conspiracy klaxon is a natural high, one that’s hard to give up.

When it comes to Icke, he seems to believe that vaccines are basically intended to undermine normal health, somehow giving the aforementioned alien lizards sway over us. Supposedly vaccines “upset the balance” of chemical and electrical signals in our bodies, leaving us more susceptible to disease and whatever the alien overlords can manufacture in their labs. Note that New Age concept of some undefined balance being at the root of our health. Haven’t we been using germ theory instead, with great success for the past century or so? And what about the fact that far from injecting defenseless infants with a mixture of toxic gunk, vaccines coach the immune system and elicit a more active response in fending off diseases? Has Icke or any of the anti-vax conspiracists ever bothered to sit through a health class?

Finally, here’s a thought that’s been bugging me after reading the breathless gasping about totalitarian police states forcing people to have vaccinations so they can fulfill their evil plans. If there really was such a powerful group at work in our world, why would there be any anti-vax sites or activists? Why would parents even have a choice whether to vaccinate their kids or not? Removing people’s freedoms and choices is what makes those totalitarian police states what they are. Tyranny doesn’t allow dissent. Rather than watch the game of rhetorical ping pong between anti-vaxers and skeptics, a police state would simply shut down all debate and silence all the Meryl Doreys and Jenny McCarthys and J.B. Handleys and David Ickes. We wouldn’t even know they exist, much less have to argue with them about basic medicine.

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  • http://froghopper.wordpress.com tmso

    David Icke’s website is superb! It’s a joke, right? I actually like Gareth Icke’s ‘Feels Like a Race’. Yikes!

    Cancer is a fungus? Where do they come up with this stuff?

    Wow, these guys are scary.

  • Thorne

    “a police state would simply shut down all debate and silence all the Meryl Doreys and Jenny McCarthys and J.B. Handleys and David Ickes. We wouldn’t even know they exist,”

    Sometimes I wonder if we wouldn’t be better off.

    Well, not really, but at least it removes the nuts.

  • Greg Fish

    “Sometimes I wonder if we wouldn’t be better off. “

    Personally, I would much rather keep the nuts than have true police state censorship imposed on them. One day it’s the nuts being shut down, the next it could be a sane and perfectly rational person who just happened to get in the way or said something the rulers didn’t like.

  • http://anotherbloggingblog.com Abber

    Alien Lizard agendas vs. the serious and possibly even fatal consequences of contracting the H1N1 flu virus. Which is true and what are the odds? Should I vaccinate against the very real threat of death by influenza, or stockpile weapons in preparation for those malevolent aliens? Surely one side of the argument has more compelling evidence. Thinking is so hard; what does Oprah have to say?

  • Thorne

    “Personally, I would much rather keep the nuts than have true police state censorship imposed on them. One day it’s the nuts being shut down, the next it could be a sane and perfectly rational person who just happened to get in the way or said something the rulers didn’t like.”

    Yeah, I agree. Sometimes, though, it seems like the nuts are outnumbering us. Eventually, we’re the ones who’ll be considered insane.

  • Rob

    Maybe you guys who are “Pro vaccine” should actually realize that they’re pushing something that can be a 1 in 500,000 chance of affecting you with ascending paralysis, really nice.

    I don’t wish to be the lottery winner in this case. You can’t just take the word of anything the government says is “good for you”… Think they’re so infallible that, or has everyone already forgotten about hurricane katrina?

  • Greg Fish

    “… they’re pushing something that can be a 1 in 500,000 chance of affecting you with ascending paralysis.”

    If you’re talking about GBS, or Guillain-Barré syndrome, the actual odds of contracting it as a potential side effect of a flu shot are 1 in 1.4 million. (study)

    Considering that the reports come from a database to which almost anyone can submit pretty much anything, we should take even those tiny numbers with a grain of salt and try not to confuse a small correlation with causation.

    “…has everyone already forgotten about hurricane katrina?”

    I’m not sure how a badly bungled response to a natural disaster is related to vaccine regimens made by companies with a long track record of creating highly successful vaccines which are subjected to a thorough review process. Sure, the results are not always perfect but there’s no such thing as a perfect treatment.

  • nwo rebel soldier

    David icke is little heavy on some of the things he says but this nwo agender i truly believe in, what started it for me was 911 the offical story is a lie the evidence is over whelming that the goverment killed their own people, it was a bit lke opening pandoras box. If they were capable of that then is this nwo agender such a hard thing to get your head round. I think in the end there has to be some sort of major cull of the human population, the world finite size & overcrowded.

    I’ll call myself a conspiracy theorist if you call yourself a coincidence theorist.

  • ValerianX

    [“Supposedly vaccines “upset the balance” of chemical and electrical signals in our bodies”] Wth what do you know about whats in the vaccines?? You have an electron microscope to check out all of the material inside?! Autism sprouted randomly within the last couple decades, coincidentally near the same time new born vaccines became the norm. Obv Disinfo article exclamating the lesser points of conspiracy theory.

  • Greg Fish

    Autism sprouted randomly within the last couple decades, coincidentally near the same time new born vaccines became the norm.

    Using your reasoning, if germ theory was born during the Industrial Revolution, this must mean that there were no germs before we had modern factories and electricity and all disease must come from industrialization. Or that Spanish Flu came after the invention of the airplane and therefore, airplanes caused the pandemic.

    Just because with a huge stretch of the imagination you’ve been able to correlate two things in your mind, you haven’t shown causation. Autism has been around for a long time, it’s just that only in the last few decades have doctors been able to recognize it as a condition which affects development, not as just a behavioral problem. And even with modern diagnostic techniques, it’s still very hard to pin down real cases.

    When all you have are half-baked ideas born out of ignorance, I don’t think you could honestly judge whether a post contains disinformation. You’re not being insightful or clever. You’re just showing that you don’t know the difference between correlation and causation by making random claims out of the blue.

  • XnairelaV

    Look more depthy into MMR shots. This is what they think the root cause is. Obviously if the shots are and have been causing autism this would be a verry tenderly avoided subject in media. You must understand Autism HAS infact substantially increased in the last couple decades regardless of the history of medicines.

  • Greg Fish

    Look more depthy [sic] into MMR shots. This is what they think the root cause is.

    You really haven’t heard of any of the scientific problems with the Wakefield study and the science involved with vaccination, have you? If just one vaccine caused autism, it would be easy to replace and would’ve happened already. Why would a quick fix be a major problem for drug companies which refine their formulas on a regular basis as it is anyway? Just because you say something is “obvious,” doesn’t mean it is.

    You must understand Autism HAS infact substantially increased in the last couple decades regardless of the history of medicines.

    So how does this prove any sort of connection? Yes, the diagnoses increased, but it really isn’t an open and shut case. Autism isn’t determined by quick blood sample or a routine examination. It’s a rather vague and speculative diagnosis at best and what many advocacy groups do by trumpeting the number of cases is spreading fear and contributing to a lack of understanding of this complex condition.

  • XnairelaV

    Its because autism has no quick fix, its purposeful destruction of the human body at a young age with microscopic brain damagers for the gain of human control and immune suceptibility. Thats why there would be no “quick fix”.

    You have said it yourself: “It’s a rather vague and speculative diagnosis at best” essentially are bodies are being attacked by something so perfect for human destruction even the best doctors have not been able to pin point its origin down to a single vaccine. What a perfect creation for human confusion and corruption.

    The scary thing about it is that you will sit here and fight about one of the possible thousands of reciprocal illnesses from vaccines. Where there are probably so many more minisucule complexities that have yet to be found.

  • Madge

    I think you’ll find autism rates have stayed the same as before the MMR was introduced.

    David Icke is radio rental, there are saner people locked up in mental institutions! I think he’s been watching too many V repeats.

  • Jane

    It’s because of people like the author of this article that humanity will be enslaved forever. Well done.

  • svetlana

    I agree with Jane’s comment, I know anti vaccine researcher, Viera Scheibner personally after visiting her when my children were born, I’m glad I didn’t vaccinate, now I’m watching hordes of sick kids manifest before my eyes, any idiot can see thimerosal (mercury) in vaccines is a plausible link for brain damage. Doctors are brainwashed as easily as the Hitler youth, money, money, money. too long to go into it, if one hasn’t fully researched then bad luck you’ve given your health away.

  • http://www.chicocvenancio.com Francisco Carvalho Venancio

    Greg,

    I did not see the link to the “alien overlord” on the video, and the website has been altered. Is there some evidence of this crazy theory today, or has time covered it up?

  • http://www.chicocvenancio.com Francisco Carvalho Venancio

    Never mind… Google solved it